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10 Responses to “If We Had Nuclear Weapons,
Hillary Clinton Would
Not Humiliate Us”

1.  Vote: 1   0   James Don Says:
   May 18th, 2010 at 10:33 pm

   Why don’t you Mus­lim try to build peace­ful nations before buy­ing weaponry and build­ing nukes? How can this world rest assured that you author­i­tar­ian and chaotic nations would launch them irresponsibly?

2.  Vote: 0   1   Mohammad Tamizifar Says:
   May 19th, 2010 at 5:36 am

   Because being Mus­lim con­tra­dicts being peaceful!

3.  Vote: 0   1   Scortch Says:
   May 19th, 2010 at 8:10 am

   Nuclear weapons are a waste of money for a coun­try in Iran’s posi­tion. Any use of even one of them would result in a nuclear response that would destroy the entire coun­try, and the devel­op­ment of a nuclear arse­nal will only encour­age coun­tries like the U.S. to start pro­duc­tion on a neutron-bomb stock­pile, that could be used against any nation that started a nuclear con­flict, with­out fear of harm­ing nearby allies with fall­out, or per­ma­nently poi­son­ing the real estate.

   It is the per­fect “green” nuke.

   So why waste the time & money?…neither the U.S. nor Israel will toss a nuke at any­one first, due to the cat­a­strophic avalanche of world­wide & domes­tic out­rage (who­ever would stu­pidly order such a thing would no doubt be arrested for war crimes & prob­a­bly exe­cuted, with the bless­ings of his own coun­try­men) as well as the threat of retal­i­a­tion by other nuclear pow­ers, which could con­ceiv­ably esca­late into a dev­as­tat­ing world conflict.

   Don’t worry…whether or not Iran has a nuclear weapon, no one will roll those dice

   So I ask again, why waste the money?

4.  Vote: 1   0   Mohammad Tamizifar Says:
   May 19th, 2010 at 8:49 am

   What if a sect is rul­ing Iran that believes in an end time prophecy which involves destroy­ing Israel to save the world and doesn’t care much about the destruc­tion of their own country??

5.  Vote: 1   0   Scortch Says:
   May 20th, 2010 at 9:19 am

   Tamiz­i­far, then there is noth­ing you can do to stop it anyway…the genie is out of the bot­tle, and the abil­ity to get the com­po­nents to build a nuke is becom­ing eas­ier every year. Just pray no one is truly that insane.

6.  Vote: 1   0   Mohammad Tamizifar Says:
   May 20th, 2010 at 9:50 am

   I’ve attended one of the schools belong­ing to this sect when I was 12, and that’s the impres­sion I have from this issue.

7.  Vote: 0   0   ormondotvos Says:
   May 20th, 2010 at 6:03 pm

   The arti­cle skips brain­lessly from the term nuclear weapon to the term nuclear, which can cover research, scan­ning, med­i­cine and elec­tri­cal power and heat.

   It is obvi­ously point­less pro­pa­ganda, pos­tu­lat­ing that moves toward peace are humiliating.

   Hon­estly, lis­ten­ing to this talk about honor and humil­i­a­tion is like nego­ti­at­ing with a testosterone-fueled teenager who’s drunk.

   Diplo­macy and com­pro­mise are NOT about honor and humil­i­a­tion, and pub­lic media should not be adding to the fire of pub­lic indig­na­tion. Stir­ring up the pub­lic may sell papers, but the papers are destroyed in the wars that follow.

   To the authors of this arti­cle: Shut up and reflect about your mis­use of media power.

8.  Vote: 0   0   Scortch Says:
   May 23rd, 2010 at 12:24 pm

   Then until some­one thinks they want to go through with it, and until the Islamic world sees the unimag­in­able results, I guess we’re boned.

   You can tell a child to stay away from the stove, but until he burns the skin off his hand, he won’t really believe you.

9.  Vote: 0   0   Mohammad Tamizifar Says:
   May 27th, 2010 at 5:31 am

   ormon­dotvos, You should know some facts about Iran:

   - Iran has known nat­ural gas reserves for the next 120 years

   - The total Iran­ian power grid capac­ity is more than 30,000 Mega Watts

   - The Bushehr Power Plant and the whole nuclear fuel cycle will be pro­duc­ing 1,000 Mega Watts (IF IT EVER STARTS WORKING!)

   - Pro­duc­ing 1 Mega watt of elec­tric­ity in a com­bined cycle plant (burn­ing nat­ural gas) costs nearly one twen­ti­eth of a nuclear plant (in Iran)

   - The nuclear pro­gram has a huge impact on the GDP, worth more than the whole elec­tric­ity industry

   Now can you imag­ine that this is all for peace­ful purposes?

10.  Vote: 0   0   ormondotvos Says:
    May 27th, 2010 at 4:14 pm

    tamiz­i­far,

    The pur­pose of the arti­cle is not peace, nor war. Looked at from the view­point of the writer, the only legit­i­mate way to look at it, it seems that the writer feels instructed to stir up national honor in what­ever irra­tional way pos­si­ble, to increase the sta­bil­ity of the rulers by invok­ing an enemy, and an hon­or­able reac­tion to such a threat. It’s an old game, as old as stamp­ing around a camp­fire rais­ing adren­a­line before a coor­di­nated hunt for a large game ani­mal, the real gen­e­sis of this now imprac­ti­cal behavior.

    But I find the MidEast very resis­tant to the idea of gov­ern­ment adapted to the human nature AND the cur­rent human con­di­tion, both intel­lec­tual and technological.

    Your argu­ments about nuclear elec­tric­ity ignore the global warm­ing prob­lem, which MUST always be con­sid­ered. Yes, it is true that Iran could trade nat­ural gas elec­tric gen­er­a­tors for an aban­don­ment of its nuclear pro­gram, and free up a large cadre of tech­ni­cians for tech­no­log­i­cal advances in infra­struc­ture such as elec­tric vehi­cles, high-speed rail, wind power, and solar elec­tric and heating.

    But they won’t, because, as you see from the arti­cle, the peo­ple in power (men) are more inter­ested in the sta­bil­ity of the gov­ern­ment THEY lead, than in a gov­ern­ment of the people.

    This is due, I think, to the theo­cratic nature of Islam, which does not admit of sec­u­lar gov­ern­ment, on what I think are very silly and myth­i­cal grounds. I am unal­ter­ably opposed to gov­er­nance based on reveal wis­dom that is not mod­i­fi­able by later dis­cov­ered evi­dence. I think moral­ity is in humans, and we don’t have any sort of sin in our nature.

    Our nature evolved to fit a par­tic­u­lar world that doesn’t exist, any more than the tribal world of Mohammed exists any longer in the wider world. There’s a rea­son for Islamic war­lords as the foun­da­tion to which the MidEast keeps crum­bling. Humans are no longer bind­able to the tribal cus­toms after they’ve seen the wider world on tele­vi­sion. Com­mu­ni­ca­tions AMONG cul­tures destroys rigid reli­gions, and a reli­gion with hijab and jihad that encour­ages mar­tyr­dom and throws acid in women’s faces is too rigid to con­tinue that way.

    Islam needs its Ref­or­ma­tion, and it needs it now. Just like war­lords must give up their fief­doms to the cen­tral gov­ern­ments, Islam must acknowl­edge that reli­gion is per­sonal, not governmental.

    Note: I will not argue the real­ity of Islam, or its so-called divine begin­nings, any more than I’d argue with chil­dren at play about the rules of their par­tic­u­lar sand­box. But chil­dren must grow up, to join the wider world, or we end up with the Lord of the Flies.

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